A father’s dilemma

January 11, 2012 10 Comments »

With all the pain of the play-offs and the heartache of relegation, should you bring up your kids as Forest supporters? Neil Heath didn’t think twice.

“It’s all my fault,” said Dad, “I’m sorry for putting you through this.”

His apology came after that incredibly painful 0-3 defeat to Derby under Joe Kinnear, in 2005. The one where he told reporters, “It’s just another game.”

Dad wasn’t taking responsibility for the result, of course, but for getting me involved with this club of ours. At that moment, with the despair I felt, I agreed with him. Why did you get me into this mess? More importantly should I share the pain with my own sons?

I was born at the end of a momentous season for Nottingham Forest. We had won the League Championship for the first time in our history and our first trophy, the League Cup, since the FA Cup in 1959.

It was a no-brainer for Dad, of course I’d be a Forest fan.

It could have been different. My Mum and my grandparents all supported Notts County but the lure of the garibaldi was too irresistible. My grandma, clearly disappointed with my choice, has frequently said to me over the years, “You support Forest but want Notts to do well”.

Dad had his own lucky escape, too. His father tried to take him to Field Mill to see Mansfield Town. Thankfully, Dad had the good sense to refuse. Instead he grew up watching Joe Baker, Terry Hennessey, Duncan McKenzie and Ian Storey-Moore at the City Ground.

He didn’t take me to my first game until April 1987. It’s easy to see why. Football grounds in the 1980s didn’t feel like safe places to take children. It was two years after Heysel, when 39 Juventus fans were crushed to death against a wall – which eventually collapsed. Closer to home, the fire which engulfed a stand at Bradford City’s Valley Parade ground was still fresh in the memory.

My debut was a midweek game against Leicester City. Dad and I sat in the Main Stand close to the pitch. When the players came on to the pitch I remember being blown away by their red glossy kits, so vivid against the green luminous turf. I recall the ebb and flow of the people in the Trent End and the way they glowed orange under the lights. I can’t forget the smell of the wet turf and the chants of “BRI-AN-CLUFFSA-FOOTBALL-GENIUSSS”. Above all, what impressed me the most was that Steve Sutton, Stuart Pearce, Des Walker, Franz Carr and Nigel Clough were real and not just black-and-white pictures in the Evening Post.

We won 2-1. Clough and Carr both scored.

What a time to start supporting the Reds. The following season we finished third behind Liverpool and Manchester United. We were also narrowly beaten by Liverpool in the FA Cup semi-final. Surely we would not have been beaten by Wimbledon in the final?

The following season we finished third again and won two trophies. The first of which was the Littlewoods Cup (League Cup). It was my first trip to Wembley and the memories of the 3-1 victory over Luton, my Dad and I together for the whole day, are among my most treasured.

The foundations of our relationship were built on Nottingham Forest. We have plenty of things to talk about nowadays but I wonder without the Reds how close we would be. It’s how we communicated as father and son in those early years and we have so many great memories of being together, watching Forest through the good and bad times.

I am a dad now. I have two boys aged four and two. They both have Forest kits, I couldn’t resist. I also have footage of them singing ‘Come on you Reds’ and ‘Derby are rubbish’. But when George was born we were in League One. It looked as though we’d be staying there. What dross was ahead? I contemplated not bringing him up as a Forest fan at all, or indeed a football fan, altogether. The ludicrous amount of money, or lack of it in some cases, its morally corrupt leading lights and its abject organising bodies have turned it into an unpalatable sport at times. If there was any purity in football it’s all but gone.

Maybe the remaining purity lies with fans. And the good times shared, however rare, between a father and son.

Follow Neil on Twitter: @Heathy278


  • John

    Myself and my daughter have a great relationship through supporting forest . We always have something to talk about, me european cup finals etc and my daughter about the promotion from div 2 .Even in the bad (and badder) days i will always be grateful for being a forest supporter due to a great lasting relationship with someone 40 years younger than me

  • Matt Newsum

    Great read. At least you’ve got Star Wars if he doesn’t take to the Mighty Reds.

  • http://goddammit.co.uk winnits

    Then you have the Star Wars dilemma… do you show them the prequels first or the original films.

    Which is more important as a twist to destroy… Anakin becoming evil or the seminal “I am your father!” moment?

    Parenthood is full of tough calls!

  • Will Mather

    I can’t wait till my lad is old enough to go. My Dad was a Bolton Wanderers fan so trips to the City Ground before my teens were rare! A shame my boy will never get the chance to experience the old Trent End roar, though.

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  • http://www.ltlf.co.uk Alex

    “Which is more important as a twist to destroy… Anakin becoming evil or the seminal “I am your father!” moment?”

    Winnits, suggesting watching the new trilogy first because it has a twist is like suggesting bringing your children up as Derby supporters because they can get a good deal on their mobile phone. Shame on you!

  • Jimbob738

    Touching story, for all mine and my dads faults one thing we will always share is our times at the city ground probably the one thing we have left between us sad to say.

    I have the exact same issue with my boy and girl, they both have the kits but seriously can I Berden them with the crap forest produce nowadays I really don’t know.

    The way I see it that forest represent the rapid decline of everything in Nottingham a once bold, proud city now lacking direction.

  • Zoe potts

    My relationship with my Dad owes alot to football as well. I would only have been about 4 when he first took me down, I think it was to a schoolboys international game tho memory is hazy. He tried and tried and tried to get my brother into footie but he was having none of it, so Dad focussed his energies on converting me to a passionate fan. Little was he to know that me, his darling daughter, was to embrace it with all the zeal he had!!! 1987 is the first season I really remember, and the years that followed, oh my! what days. So many trips to Wembley, hugging my Dad in joy!! I also have very fond memories of the “cowshed” and how proud i was when I paid for my season ticket myself for the first time!!! Yes, there’s been, and currently are, bad times also, but my own 2 daughters are growing to love football in turn. Indeed, the eldest is now playing for the school footie team now she’s moved up to secondary school. If they see the bad times now, my thinking is they’ll appreciate the good times even more when they return. the 6 year old cried when she heard Mull of Kintyre on the radio the other day, she didnt know why she said, she just felt like happy crying. I commented she must be a true Red. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.

    • Phil Bedford

      Zoe, that just brought a tear to my eye. My 7 year old daughter comes with me to watch Forest and she loves to get the player’s signatures and hug me so tight when we score and i lift her up to cheer!! I would be a very proud Dad indeed if when she is a mother herself she ever wrote anything so beautiful about our relationship

  • Steve

    Its the law. The son follows his fathers team.

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